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		<title>By: Wayan</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the bright minds at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncte.ie/ICTAdviceSupport/NCTErecommendationsforICTinPrimaryschoolsandclassrooms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National Centre for Technology in Education (NCTE)&lt;/a&gt; disagree with us. They have a whole other recommended ICT model for schools that is a bit lacking on the student interactivity side:  
  
&quot;Each classroom should be equipped with a short-throw digital projector and a teaching computer (laptop), a visualiser and a wireless keyboard and mouse. The digital projector should be fixed in position and cabled to the teaching computer. There should be access to an acceptable white projection surface. This cost of this technology configuration within each classroom is approximately &#8364;4,270 (see table 1).  
  
These recommendations are premised on the availability of internet access, via the schools broadband network, distributed throughout the schools via the school&#8217;s local area network (LAN). The network should include network points in each classroom.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the bright minds at <a href="http://www.ncte.ie/ICTAdviceSupport/NCTErecommendationsforICTinPrimaryschoolsandclassrooms/" rel="nofollow">National Centre for Technology in Education (NCTE)</a> disagree with us. They have a whole other recommended ICT model for schools that is a bit lacking on the student interactivity side:  </p>
<p>&quot;Each classroom should be equipped with a short-throw digital projector and a teaching computer (laptop), a visualiser and a wireless keyboard and mouse. The digital projector should be fixed in position and cabled to the teaching computer. There should be access to an acceptable white projection surface. This cost of this technology configuration within each classroom is approximately &euro;4,270 (see table 1).  </p>
<p>These recommendations are premised on the availability of internet access, via the schools broadband network, distributed throughout the schools via the school&rsquo;s local area network (LAN). The network should include network points in each classroom.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Trucano</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Trucano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A follow-up to my last post: If you want to get a sense of the nuts and bolts of ICT-related procurement in a school system, have a look at the guidelines just released by the U.S. Dept. of Education related to EdTech funding under the new ARRA funding package, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ed.gov/programs/edtech/guidance-arra.doc.&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ed.gov/programs/edtech/guidance-arra.d...&lt;/a&gt;  Teh question is: how to we get from here to the type of place that we all want to be? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow-up to my last post: If you want to get a sense of the nuts and bolts of ICT-related procurement in a school system, have a look at the guidelines just released by the U.S. Dept. of Education related to EdTech funding under the new ARRA funding package, <a href="http://www.ed.gov/programs/edtech/guidance-arra.doc." target="_blank">http://www.ed.gov/programs/edtech/guidance-arra.d&#8230;</a>  Teh question is: how to we get from here to the type of place that we all want to be?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Trucano</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Trucano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I certain don&#039;t want to speak for the good folks at the NCTE in Ireland (who are a pretty forward-looking bunch, btw), I would note that these recommendations are (at least within the limits of my knowledge of such things) a good example of clear guidance from a government authority to help guide ICT procurement decisions in its schools in the here and now, actionable immediately.  Typically such recommendations (or guidelines, depending on where you are) are linked to a specific funding mechanism, although I am not sure if that is the case with these recommendations in Ireland.  I&#039;d be careful about comparing such recommendations with the content of the debate here on ETD, other than to use it as a reference point to where we are today.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I certain don&#039;t want to speak for the good folks at the NCTE in Ireland (who are a pretty forward-looking bunch, btw), I would note that these recommendations are (at least within the limits of my knowledge of such things) a good example of clear guidance from a government authority to help guide ICT procurement decisions in its schools in the here and now, actionable immediately.  Typically such recommendations (or guidelines, depending on where you are) are linked to a specific funding mechanism, although I am not sure if that is the case with these recommendations in Ireland.  I&#039;d be careful about comparing such recommendations with the content of the debate here on ETD, other than to use it as a reference point to where we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: Herman Maulana</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Herman Maulana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunrise School - Bali Holistic School 
 
 
A model of inspired education, Sunrise School strives to develop young adults who are confident, responsible and creative builders of their futures. Sunrise School will provide a challenging and inclusive education with an emphasis on the whole child and on learning in a cooperative, community-centered environment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunrise School &#8211; Bali Holistic School </p>
<p>A model of inspired education, Sunrise School strives to develop young adults who are confident, responsible and creative builders of their futures. Sunrise School will provide a challenging and inclusive education with an emphasis on the whole child and on learning in a cooperative, community-centered environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayan</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 
 
I don&#039;t buy the &quot;use a familiar UI&quot; argument when it comes to primary education.  At that age level, you&#039;re not trying to teach them &quot;computers&quot; like you would teach them math.  You are trying to excite them about learning in general, and have them think of learning as fun.  Or have you though the Leapfrog a waste of time for a child because it didn&#039;t have a windowing GUI? 
 
Once children become teens, and there is a near-term possibility for them to enter the workforce, I&#039;m all for them switching to office automation-type software, and they&#039;ll pick it up quickly.  Its an evolution - like your &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/edutechdebate.org\/individal-and-communal-computer-usage\/increased-computing-saturation-requires-cost-effective-solutions\/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;hardware graph&lt;/a&gt;.  
 
Once trained on a windowing UI, they can move back and forth.  Yes, there is dissonance, but its relatively easy.  I switched to Mac last year, and after a few hick-ups from my years of Windows, I&#039;m now Mac-fluent enough to be quick.  I am still at a loss on Ubuntu thought.  You just need to give it time - you&#039;ve probably  forgotten how hard it was to learn DOS, then Windows.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>I don&#039;t buy the &quot;use a familiar UI&quot; argument when it comes to primary education.  At that age level, you&#039;re not trying to teach them &quot;computers&quot; like you would teach them math.  You are trying to excite them about learning in general, and have them think of learning as fun.  Or have you though the Leapfrog a waste of time for a child because it didn&#039;t have a windowing GUI? </p>
<p>Once children become teens, and there is a near-term possibility for them to enter the workforce, I&#039;m all for them switching to office automation-type software, and they&#039;ll pick it up quickly.  Its an evolution &#8211; like your <a href="http:\/\/edutechdebate.org\/individal-and-communal-computer-usage\/increased-computing-saturation-requires-cost-effective-solutions\/" target="_blank">hardware graph</a>.  </p>
<p>Once trained on a windowing UI, they can move back and forth.  Yes, there is dissonance, but its relatively easy.  I switched to Mac last year, and after a few hick-ups from my years of Windows, I&#039;m now Mac-fluent enough to be quick.  I am still at a loss on Ubuntu thought.  You just need to give it time &#8211; you&#039;ve probably  forgotten how hard it was to learn DOS, then Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: mbeckford</title>
		<link>https://edutechdebate.org/individal-and-communal-computer-usage/a-new-ict4e-model/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>mbeckford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wayan I would quibble with your conclusion slightly as I think it misses a few points.  First, I think Walter and I agreed that increased saturation is important, but we differ on how to accomplish that (mobility vs. lower cost being the debating factors).   And while I did not make a huge push for NComputing&#039;s virtual desktop solution, there are no platforms today that can deliver the same low-cost, energy saving, high-performing computer experience  
 
 With regard to a &quot;single learning model,&quot; the cautionary point I would make is that while a unique learning platform that enhances the learning experience is clearly beneficial, if this environment is so radically different than what is experienced on the majority of computers in use locally and globally, then the increased learning experience can be offset by the lack of understanding of how to use a typical computer.  Even I struggle to do some basic things on the Mac, regardless of how intuitive and slick it is, having spent most of the last 20 years using a DOS/Windows PC.  At the end, it is all about balance ... teaching practical skills while enhancing the learning experience.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wayan I would quibble with your conclusion slightly as I think it misses a few points.  First, I think Walter and I agreed that increased saturation is important, but we differ on how to accomplish that (mobility vs. lower cost being the debating factors).   And while I did not make a huge push for NComputing&#039;s virtual desktop solution, there are no platforms today that can deliver the same low-cost, energy saving, high-performing computer experience  </p>
<p> With regard to a &quot;single learning model,&quot; the cautionary point I would make is that while a unique learning platform that enhances the learning experience is clearly beneficial, if this environment is so radically different than what is experienced on the majority of computers in use locally and globally, then the increased learning experience can be offset by the lack of understanding of how to use a typical computer.  Even I struggle to do some basic things on the Mac, regardless of how intuitive and slick it is, having spent most of the last 20 years using a DOS/Windows PC.  At the end, it is all about balance &#8230; teaching practical skills while enhancing the learning experience.</p>
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